Public opinion is overwhelmingly characterized by outrage and empathy towards Palestinians suffering from the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, with many labeling the situation as genocidal. Commenters express frustration at both Israeli actions and Hamas's role in exacerbating the crisis, alongside disappointment in the international community's response. There exists a range of sentiments, with some advocating for humanitarian aid while others defend Israel, reflecting the complexity and emotional weight of the situation.

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You're not necessarily wrong. But I feel like this presumes that attention and coverage are not finite resources.

Bodoblock

Well it’s an intentional manufactured media campaign- Hamas admits it in their charter and asks for the media to be a part of their cause. The major problem I have with it ? It’s just all a big lie. So they’re broadcasting lies 24/7. People believe in a concocted reality about the conflict and that’s dangerous. And that’s why I don’t think gaza coverage is positive. 

If I took a poll on Reddit , for example and asked - why do you think the October attacks happened ? 

99% would likely check off the box of : Because Israel stole land from the Palestinians and keep them in an open air prison and abuse them and  have forced them into an authritarian ethno state of colonial conquest. 

It’s actively misinforming the public. 

I’m all for coverage- but when it is a lie… or leaves out half a side? 

That’s not media coverage. 

That’s a weapon of war. 

That’s intentional manipulation. 

Lying on a scale and consequence of that level? 

That is evil.

Lopsided_Thing_9474

I've seen people write to you that there are many armed conflicts, or "problematic" situation around the world, and we can't spend attention around everything thus we need to prioritize.   


I'll give you another take on this -   
People siting in their homes in countries not in the conflict area usually know very little about the conflict itself, what are the beliefs of both sides and what are the way to solve the conflict. thus, often times - more attention and more reaction creates more harm than good.   


I can tell you that IMO, to a degree, the huge amount of attention and misinformed reaction over the Israeli Palestinian or Israel Arab conflict is done in a terrible way that only hinders peace between the sides. I can elaborate on that if you want to dig into this example, but it's not really the point.   


If you agree that misinformed reactions can cause harm, and there are a lot of things to react to - most of the reactions would be misinformed. Thus, it is not only about attention span and activist fatigue or political gains - it is also about creating less harm than don't. Of course it doesn't mean that nobody should ever pay attention or react to situations, this would be horrible, but IMO - over reaction could sometimes be worse than underreaction

comeon456

There *is* only so much time in a day. If the amount of coverage in Gaza shouldn't change, but other humanitarian crises need to be covered more...are you just gonna like add hours to the day?

Which humanitarian crises should be covered, and why?

How much time for each in a day, and why?

Bonus question: How do you control what tf news broadcasters choose to cover? They are a business. If no one gives af about a little Indian village that's been in shambles for decades, why are they going to send news anchors there and report back?

SnooPets1127

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social media and big news companies will cover stories that will generate clicks thus creating an “overreaction”. Turns out that nobody really cares about the kurds and what’s been happening to them for generations so media doesn’t really cover that stuff.  I wouldn’t even be surprised if there were americans today who don’t even know the kurdish people exist. This is one example i’m giving btw there are many other groups who face just as terrible circumstances.


The real problem is ignorance. With the whole gaza thing, everybody on social media has something to say about it which is cool, great we’re talking about important things. You know what I noticed tho? the most radical people who are completely one sided in the conflict, are also the people who know least about the conflict. My theory is when people are too lazy to do like 30 minutes of research they just form a conclusion and will overreact to any piece of information. I tested this out by randomly interacting with someone i follow on ig who kept posting really weird stuff about the conflict and that person could not name a single historic thing that happened between israel/palestine, knew nothing about the wars with the arab league, nothing about death tolls, it was embarrassing.

Sauceoppa29

The attention Gaza is getting is driven primarily by anti-semitism and hatred of Jews.

the problem with this conflict is that with the high attention span given to this conflict comes an emotionalisation of the conflict. People look less for pragmatic answers but much more for idealistic answers. And these are often not the best answers. I would agree with you, if the added time investment of people would generate better discussions a d problem solving approaches. But that’s simply not the case. 

I really think that it is important to be educated about conflicts otherwise people create pressure/ expectations that are negatively going to impact the situation in a conflict region. What we see in this conflict is that both sides abuse the heightened amount of attention for propaganda. IMO, the actual amount of attention given to this by people that have no connection and no education about the conflict is detrimental. 

I believe that I am (somewhat) educated about this one, I extensively travelled all of the area, have friends in all of the region and read really really a lot about it. Most of the things that emerge from “involvement” of people is hatred, anti-islamism, anti-semitism, anti-capitalism. While such a complex situation requires a non emotional multi-faceted response.

Mcwedlav

Yes and no - we arguably focus too much on big events - especially when the cameras and press are already there because of the politics of it but even when they are not.

Roughly 150,000 people die every day of which 100,000 die of age related conditions. That means that 50,000 people a day die prematurely 

That is made up of a lot of small causes, lots of different ongoing humanitarian crisis going on across the globe all the time

Malnutrition kills. Poverty kills. The world price shock from the Russian invasion of Ukraine will probably kill more people than either it or any current war will do directly.

But the scale of it tends to overwhelm us. So we focus on much smaller but more discrete and visible disasters because we sort of think we can understand them.

SnooOpinions8790

I would broadly say that people saying Gaza gets too much attention aren't complaining about the attention it is getting.  They are asking (sometimes directly, sometimes indirectly) *why* Gaza is getting more attention.

It doesn't make sense to say it is the scale of death.  If that was true, you would expect conflicts like the Congo to get a lot more attention (6 million deaths since the 90s).

It seems unlikely it is sympathy for Muslims in particular - there are genocides committed both by and against other Muslims populations that generate little attention.

So what does make it unique?  *Why* do people care about it and not other conflicts?

Lorata

So when I call it an overreaction, I'm not saying don't care.

The overreaction is when like San Francisco voted 8-3 for a ceasefire or how pro-Hamas protestors stopped their parade outside a cancer center to scream and shout and disturb the cancer patients.  They're just mad and bored and have no outlet.

An appropriate reaction would be something constructive.  This is like when your overbearing wife grates and nags and yells and nags so much that you eventually snap and slam your car into the Accura that's tail gating you.

The closest they came to constructive was when they violently stormed the capitol a couple of months ago.

Gaza is easy to care about online. You are telling a developed democracy spending hundreds of millions on missile interceptors to stop defending itself proactively and go back to passively waiting until Hamas manages to breach them  again. There is an obvious status quo to propose returning to (in their eyes, I personally think Israel shouldn't have to accept constant rockets and the occasional terrorist incursion). Siding with Gaza is a clear underdog which is a win for internet activists too.

Stuff like tribal conflict in Africa, shit going in Ethiopia, Ugyhur persecution in China etc are more complicated so less of an easy internet talking point. As with anything its a matter of ease and controversy.

Selective outrage is always suspicious. And I do question the intentions of people who are selectively outraged about Gaza after being asleep at the wheel for other conflicts with much higher death tolls.

As for whether or not we are underreacting to other humanitarian crises, I have mixed feelings about it. War is always tragic and sad, but pacifism and appeasement have consequences that may lead to even higher levels of death. The challenge is figuring out which wars are justified and which wars are not. Sometimes it is easy to make that distinction and other times it is more complicated.

Bored_at_Work27

Yeah no shit. I am Venezuelan. There are almost 7 million Venezuelan refugees almost as much as Syria’s numbers and

There’s no war happening in Venezuela. 

We are a mere 2hours by plane from Miami so we are REALLY close to the USA. 

Yet our crisis is pretty much invisible.

maq0r

Each “crisis” gets the attention the media “thinks” it deserves.

What you do, individually about it, is up to you.

If you are in the US you have the right and freedom to do whatever your means let you.

YOU do NOT have the right or freedom to FORCE other people to care about YOUR personal priorities.

I would say the biggest issue or crisis outside of our own country is the Russia - Ukraine war now, that affects Europe the most and hence the stability of the FREE world.

I’ll start to care about Gaza and any Muslim nations once they come into the 20th century, and by that I mean give up their theocracies and fueling warlord despots, stop treating women like property, and stop killing gay members of society.
And actually contribute to world stability instead of the opposite.

Gaza gets far too much coverage.
The middle eastern nations are rich enough now (the wealth they hold is staggering, even if the wealth disparity within countries is completely staggering ) to band together and solve this problem, if they wanted to.  They don’t, though.

Instead most of the countries their are simply being used as a pawn in the Russia/China/Iran Vs US/EU/Israel charade that’s been going for decades.

So no, the coverage is completely over the top for this because it’s all political.

And I have enough issue working to pay my damn bills to GAF about global politics.

johnny2fives

Why do you think most people outside the Middle East should care about the crisis in Gaza? It doesn't affect their lives in anyway. It's strategically unimportant. Caring about a crisis doesn't stop the crisis from happening.

I think that Israel generally gets much more coverage that it should, but I want to focus more on the second part of your view that the world is 'under reacting to other humanitarian crisis'

People want to make a difference. Many of the other world crisis are in countries that don't care much about world opinion.  Israel cares about world opinion much more, and therefore may be more susceptible to be influenced by coverage of the conflict worldwide.

Cultural_Energy_2905

To a lot of people, the situation is much less complicated than other crises. The US gives Israel tens of billions of dollars worth of money and weaponry, and they've been accused of apartheid by Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International and are currently defending an accusation of genocide at the International Criminal Court. 

"Stop giving them money" is a very simple ask, and it's one that can't be made in other humanitarian crises. We can't threaten to defund an earthquake. There's also a simple rebuttal to requests to condemn Hamas: we don't fund or support them ([Netanyahu, on the other hand, did](https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/)), so sure, stop sending US tax dollars to BOTH sides.

It's also emotionally charged in ways that other conflicts aren't, and there's a strong generational divide between parents who get their news from traditional media and their children who see [what IDF soldiers are putting on TikTok](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEih34n0C9Y). This is particularly prevalent in diaspora Jews, and I personally know people who aren't speaking to family members right now over the situation.

maxwellmaxwell

This may be a shitty take, but if you care about being a happy person... just ignore everything that doesn't directly impact you or your loved ones in your local area. 100 years ago we didn't know what was going on half way across the world. Ignorance is bliss. The only people you're helping by consuming the news is their advertisers sell more Viagra. Local news is the only thing that really matters and even then, there's only so much time in a day. Talking about something happening 10,000 miles away on social media just helps the advertisers sell more useless garbage. If you actually want to help, either donate some money to an organization or shut the fuck up. Think about all of the things you've bitched about over the last 10 years, has it helped anybody? Has it helped yourself? No?

People also act like world saviors when the sad Truth about this world is that there are wrongs we cannot right. Unless it's a really fucked up situation (I'm watching you, Adolf) you cannot help others while being crippled. I know this will sound cruel, but I worry for my own country before any other country. Yeah, mine won't be a war thorn hell hole, but still, we should keep our home clean before trying to clean other one's. And really be careful who you support, in my case, the only support I have is for civilian lives. But people are supporting factions that are dictatorships.

Spring063

I feel this pretty accurate. Not a peep while the Rohingya are being blown up for returning to their homeland in Myanmar. Not peep when Turkey has been systemically cleansing the Northern Iraq area from Kurds. Not a peep when we still have a problem with Boko Haram raping and kidnapping young women from Nigeria. The country cares more because it has to with Israel.

If Israel did what Myanmar does to the Rohingya, what Boko Haram does, or what Turkey does to the Kurds it would be more prominent but it has nothing to do with Israel so not a peep for those people.

The0Walrus

People, both individually and collectively, have limited attentional resources and can process a limited cognitive load. The public discourse can only focus on so much at any given time.

Overloading attention on global humanitarian crises for which the majority of people aren't directly affected and can't do anything about is a fruitless distraction from other things more worthy of their attention. It would suck up the focus from more proximate and more directly important issues closer to home. It may potentially allow domestic politicians to get away with more, with less accountability, both because the public isn't paying close attention and because it invites comparison with the worst humanitarian crises the world has to offer, so maybe they aren't so bad.

Going further, I think excessive attention and emotional investment in tragedies that are out of your control and have limited impact on you is mentally unhealthy. For many people, I would classify the Israel-Gaza conflict in this category (with obvious exceptions like if you're Israeli or Palestinian or live in the region or have family/friends who do etc).

Human beings evolved to be caring and compassionate because those were useful emotions when applied to the people around you, people with whom you were closely interconnected with. It helps build relationships, cooperation, and cohesion. Human beings weren't designed to care deeply about catastrophes happening thousands of miles away. If you can't do anything about it, and there's no impact on you which you need to keep in mind to adjust how you act, then it's not useful. And for most of human history, they couldn't expend emotional energy on faraway catastrophes. But now with modern technology, you can watch a HD livestream of children being murdered and it fools your senses so you put your attention towards it and you feel it as viscerally as if you were there in person, watching the slaughter of the people of your city or town or village except you're powerless to stop it. This is one of the core mechanisms by which social media erodes mental health.

Dangerous-Bid-6791

Not sure.

If we are speak about military conflicts:As far as I understood, Israel/Gaza conflict is rather unique. Israel is seen as "civilized" country, they ALSO seen as bad one and they mostly agree their actions could be seen as bad but it's necessary for their survival and they don't really want any diplomatic solutions. All other conflicts are between "uncivilized" ones or all sides say they are doing Good Thing or at least saying they are open to negatiations.

vikarti_anatra

Painting Jews as villains no matter what they do is the oldest propaganda move in history, it ain’t stopping any time soon.

KnowingDoubter

Let's take it as given that humanitarian crises are bad.

What are you trying to actually achieve by putting the attention of them uninformed masses on the situation? How does this actually help with the humanitarian crisis?

Imo, public attention only serves emotionalize the situation and make it harder for our diplomats and military to come up with a pragmatic solution.

zacker150

the killing of children in gaza is being broadcast in live time for everyone to see... ofco ppl are reacting to it right away 

OP is giving very whataboutism, complete erasure of human rights activists and humanitarian groups that have been sounding the alarm around the globe for decades, not just for gaza and everywhere else

Icy_Construction_821

The most annoying thing that my mom has to say about my this is that “oh well hamas started it with the killing of Jewish children” and I simply am aghast that her logic is to kill more children and viewing that as acceptable?!! Like I can’t debate when she doesn’t think about logic. 😡

Hot_Success8576

I believe the greatest humanitarian crisis right now is happening on home turf. We're all too focused on what other people are doing and not minding our own lives. I believe anyone at war is at war with themselves. World peace would be possible if people had inner peace.

honneylove

There are so many factors to consider in this, so I'm only going to speak in regards to protests and outrage. 

Firstly I'll point out the world's reactions to the Ukraine invasion and BLM, they were humongous and it felt like there was significantly less counter-discourse (i.e. pro Russian or anti-BLM). 

Now, the question of under reacting to other situations. You mentioned Sudan for example in another comment, I'll go with that for a moment. 

With the Sudan situation, it's been widely condemned by both the UN and many member states, sanctions have been imposed, war crimes investigations are underway, aid is being delivered, and some Western powers are intervening to deescalate. Not to mention Western powers are not (at least blatantly) funding what's happening, and there isn't a significantly cohort of people arguing that what is happening there is necessary, actually. 

Compare that with the Gaza situation. It's being directly funded and armed by many Western powers, Israel has not been widely condemned, sanctions have not been imposed, aid is being gatekept from entering Gaza, war crimes are not being investigated, and until recently nobody was really even thing to stop what's happening. 

Add on top of that the very significantly discourse to try and justify the aggression, misdirect from transgressions, and the strong West-facing propaganda campaign from Israel. Not to mention the brutal blockade that's resulted in the strangling of the livelihood of the people of Gaza, as well the fact they've been essentially living in a apartheid-like system for decades.

So, at least in my mind, there is significantly more reason to mobilize for Palestine than Sudan (and that applies to other conflicts too). Mostly to try and influence our Western governments to do something, anything, even matching what they are doing in Sudan. Obviously each situation is unique, but it's clear not enough is being done with regards to Gaza.

_Richter_Belmont_

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict as a whole got disproportionately more coverage than most others, let alone the current actual war in the Gaza Strip. It has many reasons for it, and most of them has nothing to do with the humanitarian crisis.

The religious aspect of it (Jew vs Muslim) rallies the religious people from both religions and parts of the Christian world as well. This is a huge population of the world (Muslim countries, and evangelical Christians, as well as Jewish communities around the world)

The “colonial” aspect of it (European Jews vs Arab MENA / white vs brown) brings a lot of attention from the rest of the formerly colonial occupied countries, and some colonial governments (SA for example)

It’s also a clash of the western cultures and ideas (equal rights, democracy and secularism) vs the eastern Arab culture (theocracy, tribalism, patriarchy) 

Let’s not forget its also a Cold War front (west vs USSR/russia), it used to be a British mandate state, the history Germany had to do with the creation of Israel and many others aspects, like good old antisemitism and the fact that Jews run the global media (see what I did there?)

What’s I’m trying to say is that, even without a humanitarian crisis, the area has a lot of foreign intervention and interest and therefore media coverage.

Mass media today mostly reports for two reasons (unfortunately): to have a lot viewers for ad revenue, and to shape the world view of their viewer. And inherently due to reasons I listed above this conflict brings a lot of viewers.

With zero disrespect to the tens of thousands of Somalis that died- no one cares about civil wars where both sides came from similar traditions, areas, colors and religions that decides to fight each other. It’s viewed as a local dispute not too different than a way for them to choose the next president- in the west it’s done via voting, in Africa via shooting the other side better. How much news coverage you get to elections in France for example? Pretty much the same as the Rohingya genocide, or the Syrian civil war. 

Should there be a dedicated channel to world disasters and humanitarian crises and you would have the screen split in 4 to be able to actually show all that is happening- the people will still won’t mind.

Last thing I would add, is that both Israeli and Palestinian are doing whatever they can to enlist people to their side even outside of traditional media - Israel is rich enough, and advanced enough to do it on their own, while the Palestinian side is getting help from the Muslim/arab world such as Qatar and Iran (also with their ties to China and Russia) which comes to show just how many hands are stirring the pot.

danziman123

Sadly Gaza may get more attention than the Ukraine currently but its the wrong form of attention. This conflict is not seen as the terrible event it is for both sides but rather as something you have to chose one site over the other. Reddit and Instagram are full of these shallow "Free Palestine" posts and people just repeating what some bored celebs have to say. The attention should be focused on help and support. Instead it just got integrated in our global cultural battle which is a tragedy on its own.

AmberJill28

Your post confuses me. Are you writing crisis as the plural of crisis? Or are you saying there is another single crisis that is being ignored. 

The plural of crisis is crises. At least in the USA.

You're reminding me of something a journalism prof. of mine liked to say. 'The biggest bias in news reporting isn't how the story is told, it's whether it's even told or not.'

Rabbitscooter

Saying Israel is at fault for HAMAS raping, kidnapping and murdering those people in October, btw is like saying rape victims are at fault for being attractive. If they weren't trying to attract people they wouldn't be raped.

The only "reactions" which are worth anything, are those that actually lead to positive change.

Getting angry with your friend because they slightly disagree with your views about a conflict on the other side of the world is not useful.

Allying with a hate group who literally want to murder your neighbors is not useful.

Someone in my town has been putting up signs telling people to boycott Jewish-owned businesses because Gaza. I think the person putting up those signs is *probably* a neo-Nazi, and is trying to stir up hatred against my Jewish neighbors. I do not think they are doing anything good for Palestinians.

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Hamas is like ISIS or the Houthis. They are committed to murdering all the Jews, as a step on their psychotic path to creating a fascist state — which they believe to be an Islamic state. I'm not an Islamic theologian, so I don't have an opinion about whether their goals should count as "Islamic". From a secular political standpoint, their goals can be safely described as fascist: [a doctrinaire militarist dictatorship; illiberal, antisemitic, anti-modern; misogynistic, homophobic, and rapist; that centers around "heroic" death and war, and murders anyone who doesn't fit in.](https://interglacial.com/pub/text/Umberto_Eco_-_Eternal_Fascism.html)

Hamas' goals *do not* include protecting Palestinian civilians. If they did, they would consider following international law of war that is intended for protection of civilians, e.g. *not putting military installations in civilian hospitals and schools please.*

As a reminder, the reason that it's against international law to put military installations in civilian hospitals (or schools, or apartment buildings) is that doing so causes the civilian hospital to become a valid military target in wartime. Hamas doesn't give two fucks about Palestinian civilians, so they gleefully put military stuff in civilian places and blame the predictable results on Israel.

fubo

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/ethnic-killings-one-sudan-city-left-up-15000-dead-un-report-2024-01-19/?utm_source=reddit.com

solo-ran

The militant organizations like HAMAS will never seek to improve the way of life in GAZA. Instead of focusing on war and spending millions to wage war . Why should they ? The squalid depressing conditions are ideal breeding ground and an endless source of recruits for their cause.

Trebla_Nogara

The reason Gaza is getting attention is that America is directly supporting the occupying, brutalizing, and humiliating colonial forces directly causing the humanitarian crisis. A tax payer has to ask whether they like that idea, and if they don't, they need to voice their concerns to politicians and vote accordingly if they don't want to be part of what is going on.

There is a difference between America not deploying troops all over the entire world to play decider in all matters and not spending billions on fixing the problems faced by people in every part of the world like starvation and disease simply due to pragmatic reasons versus America spending billions to make weapons to send over directly to the occupying, colonial force that consistently uses brutality, destruction, and humiliation as tools to expand territory the same way Russia does in Ukraine. I've never heard of any urban warfare where 50% of every single building in the entire country was blown up with missiles and 70% of every home in the country has been blown to bits. The reason? I guess it just depends on what point in the disinformation campaign by Israel you want to accept as totally and completely true no matter what. Was it used to launch a missile? Were there *tunnels under everything so we blow up everything*? Was it because their new AI system recommended the target, minimizing the impact humans have here? "Oh, it's just what the computer told us to do. You understand now."

To make this distinction clear, America spent a lot of WWII not getting into the war. They were considering things and figuring stuff out. They were defending themselves instead of defending every single person on the planet. These are regular actions. However, if America were instead actively funding the Nazi regime, that would push things into a direction where it should be on the news all over the place since, by that point, clearly something has gone awry in the political system.

tedbradly

The problem isn't the attention it's getting. It's the amount of misinformation being spread.

What's wild to me is the amount of protest and marches in support of Palestine. But nearly zero countries are willing to take in Palestinian refugees. That says more about what countries think than anything.

Even I fell prey to misinformation early on. I thought the Palestinian people were just as much a victim of Hamas as Israel was. Turns out the Palestinian people were in lock step with Hamas from the start.

Nobody is offering answers to the Palestine issue, they are just screeching.

HorrorPerformance

Americans who care more about Gaza/Palestine than Maui are regarded

1. There's nothing you can really do to change the situation in Gaza. Protesting isn't going to work, and ceasefire now only leaves more possibilities of future war
2. Humanitarian crisis is caused by Hamas, who started the war and committed some of the most atrocious war crimes, and are using Palestinians as human shields. But nobody who protests about humanitarian crisis is protesting to oust Hamas.

3. No Muslim countries nearby are willing to accept Palestinians, and why not protest about that? It's because they don't want to accept them themselves.

4. People are sick and tired of hearing about the conflicts. People don't want some temporary bandaid solution only to keep hearing about war there again. Hamas never had a chance, so might as well let Israel take control over Gaza to open possibilities of increased stability in the region.

ZenDaFout

Just three generations ago, the Grand Mufti of Palestine was recruiting for the Waffen-SS, directly collaborating with Hitler. I have a good feeling that Nazi influence is still quite prominent in Palestinians. At the beginning of the war, there were schools with munitions and textbooks with Nazi symbolism on the front cover. Insane that people want to help these psychos

Proud-Grocery-3493

Why are we so obsessed with them.
If we really want to discuss some other countries issue so badly rather discuss myanmar. Their civil war is a leading cause of illigal immigrants in India

BlueLabel19

Look who's defending who. The irony is crazy.

thedeviantingdeviant

If the rally goes through egypt and disturbes the people - absolutely justified. There is a reason why the brotherhood of their own faith doesn't allow refuge to these so called "civilians" that are highly trained in hospital basements. There is a reason why world hates hamas - rich enough to buy missiles but not rich enough to feed people. More than half of what ever people support this side : be it EU / dutch / sweden / Singapore - all of them would be beheaded by these people for way of living. 

What a disgusting joke.

SageSharma

Egypt has their own problems to deal with and now these people want to cause more chaos in egypt

Sorry but Egypt doesnt want this, so yes they CAN stop it. Also there is a reason egypt and jordan wont take in palestinians, it causes instability and no one wants that

Lets talk about our own country first, we have absolutely NO relation to palestine, NONE. We can do NOTHING to help get aid get in, we should be concerned abt what our neighbors are planning for us first

Imaginary_Ambition78

ChoiceTask3491

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September

The last time the Middle East let the Palestinians in with a view to helping them, it didn't go very well......

Edit - seem to be attracting 2 packs of rabid yippies. 1 is the obvious Islamists. 2nd seems to the be the Western Intifada brigade 😂

And for what? Literally showing what havoc the Palestinians have caused when they've been welcomed.

Well done Egypt, defend yourself. Keep the trash out. More strength to you.

OSINTPolitik2

Egypt is right.

These idiots were handing themselves over to hamas to be hostages free of charge.

MediocreWitness726

No gulf country would even touch palestine with a ten feet pole. They know their history and their realties better than any of us. But "Greta" from Sweden thinks she has a humanitarian role to play otherwise the world would stop spinning 

Jolly-Locksmith8734

I think it is very healthy for these protesters to get a taste of the real Middle East.

Manboobsboobman

Good on the Egyptians. I’m a westerner and I’m fucking bored of these ignorant (normally white) social justice warriors from their 4 bedroom house in the suburbs (who wouldn’t house a refugee if their life depended on it) marching, protesting and thinking that other nations are desperate for a highly privileged opinion on their own internal matters. All because it makes Karen feel better about herself. 

Fuck them all, bravo Egypt for showing them how ill educated, unwanted and uncultured they are.

Key_Honeydew_3718

Old_Chair8166

Let them through but don’t let them out anymore.

I think Egypt understands the situation greater than most

dja1000

I am enjoying watching the activists get pelted by the people they claim to want to save 🥹

EbbNervous1361

I don't know who the world in this scenario is but yeah since these clowns condemn everything related to israel. 

Besides that I thought this sub is related to Indian not issues in other countries. Why are we bringing these foreign news in the sub.

Horny-person-1933

Pretty shameful,Europeans trying to help Palestinian Arabs while their fellow Egyptian Arab neighbors attack the Europeans for attempting to help the Palestinians,what an embarrassing situation

https://preview.redd.it/91yyvldna17f1.jpeg?width=2560&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=20d028592bd226280efb21734c1cce5be47f7e1e

Found in a Gaza school

tall-glassof-falooda

I'm Egyptian, our dick-tator is complicit in genocide with Israel, so yes, Egypt is at fault.

Ok_Librarian_7841

Israel owns the government and it wants you to think it owns the mind of the people.  These traitors are a tiny minority.

Well it’s a dictatorship brought by US Israel and Saudis. It’s the same in Pakistan, they call them unknown people who come in civilian clothes and pick you up if you speak against dictatorship or shadow rulers. These aren’t civilians, they dress up as civilians.

Ihatepros236

I'd say bravo to Egypt. They probably just saved the lives of all those people.

BusyBeeBridgette

CauseClassic7748

This is awesome footage. A sane thing to do. And yes, nobody wants them. Nobody. They are horrible people.

DrNCrane74

Its like national border matters and also look like nobody living around the Palestinians like them.

StrikingExcitement79

Let's call this euphemism of "March to Gaza" for what it is: an organized attempt to mobilize people across international borders illegally. 


That's it. It was never about peace, it was never about solidarity, it was about usurping the sovereignty of nations and undermining international law. 

ADN161

WeeklyEmu4838

# [WHERE ARE THE ARABS?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hymg3QV6aG8)

Ancient-Watch-1191

The Arab dictators are Israels first line of defence. 

Bunkerlala

I have no opinion because the situation is just a mess. A tit for tat shite fest. 

I just feel sorry for normal civilians caught up in the middle of this big real world game of Risk.

Mother_Pay_216

If Egypt doesn’t care, why don’t they let them go? Now I can see there may be issues when the people want to return to Egypt from Gaza. But letting them leave to march to Gaza should be an open door. Are they worried there would be blood on their hands if something bad happened?

Firefly_Magic

Demuestran ser mas inteligentes que los palestinos, en su día, ya avisaron a Nasser que Egipto era el país mas facilmente destruible de la zona, 4 missiles en Assuan y...Egipto RIP !, parece que lo entendieron.

Ramonnet_

Egypt is a sovereign state. it is their decision on how they view and handle internal affairs. If this march is illegal for them, then it is illegal.

Flashy-Pride-935

It doesn't make any sense that Egyptian civilians would be part of this... Why the fuck would they be against people wanting to support Gaza

java080

Lately seeing too much chaos in peaceful community..

CYCLONOUS_69

What happened to the 'muslim brotherhood' all the Egyptians and other arab nationalitoes in the West are demanding for the West to open their borders to let refugees in yet their own people are beating up Palestinians with shoes??? The hypocrisy is astonishing. The arab muslim countries won't let them in but expect the West who have no similarities with their lifestyle or religion to do?? 

The Syrians and Algerians ruined Europe, specifically France. The men go around harrasing the Caucasian women. I have so many french women friends, and all of them said they left their country because they didn't feel safe walking down the street anymore. 

In Sweden, Christmas celebrations are banned in schools because it hurt muslim sentiments. Wtf??

NutellaRaid

"is it okay to beat peaceful protestors sat on the floor? I am not sure because I am a spineless fucking idiot."

ichbinpask

Egypt is right. It wants no part of this war. Why would allow a bunch of entitled, high-minded foreigners use its country as a starting point to feel morally superior. People should thank Egypt. It's saving these idiots from a near certain death.

Mediocre-Hunt-5348

Egypt remembers Black September and the Lebanese Civil War. They don't want to take in any refugees after that mess.

Adorable_Cuckquean

38396972

Bruh white folks really need to go home and get a job...

Numerous-Heat-3457

I should bring these egyptians to Canada to help stop the pro palis here too

Kavkaz87

Egypt has been part of the blockade against Hamas in Gaza since 2007. When they tried to open their border to Palestinians l, Hamas started helping ISIS in the Sinai to kill Egyptian forces.
Egypt demolished all buildings near the border with Gaza to expose Hamas tunnels and flooded them with raw sewage before erecting a large fortified wall

bakochba

lemonkiwi01

All the wanna be Greta's are just a bunch of fake revolutionaries. Meaninglessness words and actions grasping for embarrassing amounts of clout.

Only_Objective_Facts

You should ask yourself why no one is screaming Egypt kidnapped or attacked them like they did to Israel when Israel gave Greta and her savior crew sandwiches and deportation tickets

InternationalYou4065

This isn’t the Egyptian people. This is Sisi’s goons. The world should condemn Sisi and the Egyptian people should rise up with the support of other Arab nations, but that won’t happen because of how cucked the Arab world is by the US. Disgusting.

UnsolicitedPicnic

The area surrounding Rafah is not ordinary terrain. It lies within the Sinai Peninsula, where there has been years of terrorism and military operations. For over a decade, Egyptian forces have fought extremist terrorist groups there, and the region remains under heightened military alert. In such a context, the presence of thousands of foreign demonstrators, however peaceful their purpose, posed a tangible risk. Unregulated gatherings near a militarized border could become targets for violence, be exploited by hostile actors, or unintentionally trigger confrontation. [source ](https://www.arabnews.com/node/2604412)

Alphablack75

egypt is a dictatorship this is the decicion of a single person abdulfatah al-sisi whom also working now as a doorman for netanyahu more like a loyal dog than a president, the egyptians are either too oppressed or too brainwashed with fear of being drawn in the conflict if they gave any help of any kind so theres that too is the work of media and police state people live in

firewingdale

Trump’s favorite dictator dressed his security men in traditional clothing — can’t say Arab deception plans aren’t top notch 😂

LocalnGlobal

Idk if it has to do with iran being bombed recently. But ive seen far less hamas worship and more Palestine is getting what they get. Maybe less bots or there has been enough information passed that the ai is picking up on the shift so they are switching sides now too.

canadianholler

Egypt is part of the pan Islamic world 
It is not the enemy 
When they make these decisions it isn’t due to racism

BlackScrolls25

Intense Israeli airstrikes in Gaza have resulted in significant casualties, including the deaths of children near water distribution points. With recent attacks resulting in over 90 Palestinian deaths, truce negotiations between Israel and Hamas remain stalled, worsening the humanitarian conditions for residents.

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